Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/04/1994 08:15 AM House RES

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  SB 238 - COASTAL ZONE MANAGEMENT PROCEDURES                                  
                                                                               
  KEN ERICKSON, AIDE, SENATOR DRUE PEARCE, stated the Coastal                  
  Policy Council coordinates state agencies and local coastal                  
  districts in reviewing and issuing state permits for                         
  proposed development projects affecting natural resources in                 
  Alaska's coastal zones.  SB 238 clarifies when and how                       
  certain parties can petition the Coastal Policy Council                      
  during an Alaska Coastal Management Program consistency                      
  review.                                                                      
                                                                               
  MR. ERICKSON said this bill corrects a problem which occurs                  
  when a petition is brought before the council after a final                  
  commissioner level decision on a consistency review has been                 
  made.  Under current Alaska Coastal Management Program                       
  statutes and regulations the state's resource commissioners                  
  cannot delegate their responsibility to participate in an                    
  elevation of a consistency determination to the commissioner                 
  level, nor may they delegate their authority to decide a                     
  petition in the final consistency determination.  However,                   
  as noted in the included informal Attorney General's                         
  opinion, the commissioners cannot sit in both capacities.                    
                                                                               
  Number 395                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. ERICKSON stated the clarifications embodied in SB 238                    
  will ensure that complaints are heard and addressed in a                     
  timely manner.  This bill will ensure that citizens, state                   
  agencies, and affected projects have a voice in the                          
  development policies of the state's coastal areas.  He                       
  stressed SB 238, as proposed, is the result of intensive                     
  collaboration between Senator Pearce, an Alaska Coastal                      
  Policy Subcommittee, the Alaska Department of Law, and other                 
  interested parties.  He told committee members that in their                 
  folders they will find a negative fiscal note, a sectional                   
  analysis, an analysis from Paul Rusanowski, a summary of the                 
  Attorney General's opinion, and a summary of the Alaska                      
  Coastal Management Policy's review process.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 407                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN said the committee has heard                            
  essentially the same bill as a house version and it was                      
  passed.                                                                      
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS stated SB 238 had not been heard in the                    
  House Resources Committee, but had been heard in the Oil and                 
  Gas Committee.                                                               
                                                                               
  STEVEN PORTER, ARCO ALASKA, testified via teleconference,                    
  and expressed support of SB 238, a good consensus bill.                      
                                                                               
  PAUL RUSANOWSKI, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF GOVERNMENTAL                          
  COORDINATION, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, stated SB 238 is                       
  identical to HB 401 and emphasized SB 238 is a consensus                     
  bill which was developed over a period of almost two years,                  
  involving many members of coastal districts, interested                      
  industries, and state representatives and added that the                     
  bill has been endorsed in concept by the Coastal Policy                      
  Council for moving forward in the legislative process.  He                   
  said the Coastal Policy Council contains nine                                
  representatives from different districts around the state                    
  and seven representatives from state departments.                            
  Therefore, SB 238 has broad support within the                               
  Administration, within the coastal program and within the                    
  constituents of the coastal program represented by the                       
  districts.                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. RUSANOWSKI stressed SB 238 does resolve a problem of due                 
  process in which currently the commissioners are charged                     
  with hearing elevations on disputed projects and are also                    
  charged with sitting on the Coastal Policy Council to hear                   
  petitions.  He noted that committee members have in their                    
  folders a diagram illustrating the due process problem.  He                  
  stated SB 238 is one solution which solves the problem.                      
                                                                               
  Number 475                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS noted the Bering Straits Coastal Resource                  
  Service Area Board has concerns and asked Mr. Rusanowski to                  
  address those concerns.                                                      
                                                                               
  MR. RUSANOWSKI said the concern which the Bering Straits                     
  Coastal Resource Service Area Board has is that the public                   
  which will participate in the process and will have the                      
  ability to petition the Coastal Policy Council to ensure                     
  their comments are fairly considered has to participate in                   
  the review itself; that is they have to actively comment                     
  during the consistency review.  If a person has not                          
  commented during that review, that person does not have the                  
  right to petition to ensure their comments were fairly                       
  considered.  He stated the Bering Straits Coastal Resource                   
  Service Area Board feels SB 238 will diminish the ability of                 
  the public or other groups to participate in the process and                 
  that any individual should have the ability to petition that                 
  their comments are fairly considered.                                        
                                                                               
  Number 500                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. RUSANOWSKI said the issue is best stated as if you have                  
  not participated in the process and are unaware of the                       
  project, you only have a five day window in which to respond                 
  to request a petition to the Coastal Policy Council.  It                     
  would be difficult to conceive of a circumstance where                       
  someone would become aware of a project who had not                          
  commented and would have a grievance that could be resolved.                 
  He noted that the coastal district has the ability to                        
  petition.  He stressed the coastal district is the                           
  representative group, at the local level, for all of the                     
  citizens of that district and already perform that function.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MR. RUSANOWSKI stated what is being added to that function                   
  is the ability of a citizen who chooses individually to                      
  participate to ensure that not only the agencies have                        
  performed properly but that the district has performed                       
  properly.  If in that individual's opinion, this has not                     
  happened with respect to his/her comments, that individual                   
  can go to the Coastal Policy Council and make sure the                       
  Council does take action with respect to their concern.  He                  
  stated the department does not view the Bering Straits                       
  Board's concern as appropriate to SB 238.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 536                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES posed a hypothetical situation where a                 
  process was going forward and an individual had made                         
  comments that a third party agreed with, but for expediency                  
  purposes decided not to duplicate the comments but rather                    
  just monitor the process.  Then the decision is made and it                  
  is the third party's opinion that those comments which                       
  represented their own were not fairly dealt with and for                     
  some reason, the second party decided not to appeal. He                      
  stated what SB 238 forces is that in order for people to                     
  keep their opportunity to elevate the issue, many people                     
  will be commenting just to keep their oar in the water.  He                  
  said he can envision a number of circumstances where people                  
  might want to just watch and see what happens and then                       
  choose to be concerned at the last minute.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 555                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. RUSANOWSKI explained the present process addresses that                  
  situation.  A citizen of a district is represented by the                    
  district's participation and has no rights currently to any                  
  petition or elevation status in the present review process.                  
  He said if a person has a grievance with how the process is                  
  being handled, they must go to the district representative,                  
  make their case known, and the district supports their                       
  position in the process.  The district is the entry point                    
  for the public.                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 580                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. RUSANOWSKI stressed SB 238 expands that participation by                 
  the public so if they chose to participate themselves, they                  
  have a right to make sure they are heard.  If they have not                  
  participated themselves, they still have the same right to                   
  go to their district and say the process is not working                      
  correctly and the district needs to represent them and move                  
  forward.  He felt the present status has not been                            
  diminished, but rather the ability has been added for a                      
  member of the public who chooses to participate, to have the                 
  same rights as the district.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 597                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated in her experience with the                       
  public and planning process, in order to be available to                     
  participate in the objection process, a person has to have                   
  been available in the beginning.  She felt that was a good                   
  way to guarantee that people do not come in out of the                       
  woodwork and get involved.                                                   
                                                                               
  BETH KERTTULA, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF                     
  LAW, stated she is available to answer questions.                            
                                                                               
  Number 637                                                                   
                                                                               
  TOM LOHMAN, REPRESENTATIVE, NORTH SLOPE BOROUGH, testified                   
  via teleconference, and expressed support of SB 238.  He                     
  said all of the good things in SB 238 stand in contrast to                   
  the Administration's introduction of HB 474 which also                       
  addresses coastal management issues.                                         
                                                                               
  ROGER ALLINGTON, DIRECTOR, STATEWIDE PLANNING, DEPARTMENT OF                 
  TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES (PF), stated the                        
  department does not have a problem with SB 238, but does                     
  have a problem with the coastal management procedures.  He                   
  said on January 31, the department communicated with Senator                 
  Pearce's office suggesting language be added to SB 238 to                    
  correct the problem.  The problem is that currently all DOT                  
  and PF projects are required by federal law to have a                        
  minimum of three public involvement processes.  A statewide                  
  transportation plan is required which goes through a public                  
  process; a three year state transportation improvement                       
  program is developed which goes through a public process;                    
  and then each project has to go through an environmental                     
  process.   At that time, the department has to go through                    
  the Division of Governmental Coordination consistency                        
  determination which adds about 30-50 days to the project                     
  time period which gives the opportunity for an opponent of                   
  the project to get a second bite of the apple.                               
                                                                               
  MR. ALLINGTON stated DOT suggests the Coastal Management Act                 
  be amended to provide that in AS 44.19.145, which involves                   
  the functions of the office of the Governor, in subsection                   
  11 which addresses determining federal consistencies, an                     
  additional clause be added which would state, "provided                      
  however that if a project has been developed in such a                       
  manner that the requirements of AS 46.40.096 are met, the                    
  state agency proposing the project shall make the conclusive                 
  state consistency determination."                                            
                                                                               
  MR. ALLINGTON said this amendment will allow DOT or any                      
  other agency which goes through the process outlined for the                 
  Coastal Management determination program will be able to                     
  make a consistency determination.  He stated DOT feels this                  
  change will serve the public process required.  He added                     
  that DOT does get local government concurrence on projects.                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-25, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN felt the procedure used to                        
  proposed the amendment is strange and felt the proposed                      
  amendment does not relate directly to SB 238.  He wondered                   
  why the Administration did not introduce a bill on the                       
  subject.                                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. ALLINGTON responded they could but since SB 238 was at                   
  hand, the procedure could be included in the bill.                           
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE FINKELSTEIN said this is not how the                          
  Administration usually operates.                                             
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES commented this amendment will affect                   
  all agencies in their review process and will need a lot of                  
  consideration.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 020                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked the view of the sponsor in regard to                 
  the suggested amendment.                                                     
                                                                               
  MR. ERICKSON said Senator Pearce defers to the will of the                   
  committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked if the amendment fits within the                 
  title.                                                                       
                                                                               
  MS. KERTTULA stated she had not seen the amendment                           
  previously.  She was not sure about the single subject rule                  
  in the title and said conceivably it would not be under the                  
  same subject, especially given the general thrust of the                     
  bill.  She said it is not an easy suggestion to simply say                   
  that if the state agency has been meeting with the process,                  
  then it will not have to go through a consistency review.                    
  It would create many legal issues and there is a need for                    
  the Department of Law to take another look at the bill and                   
  the proposed amendment.  In her opinion, given the lateness                  
  in the session, the proposed amendment needs to be taken up                  
  as a separate topic.                                                         
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE CON BUNDE felt the amendment should not be                    
  considered.                                                                  
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES agreed.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 056                                                                   
                                                                               
  DREW SCALZI, MEMBER, ALASKA COASTAL POLICY COUNCIL,                          
  testified via teleconference, and passed on giving                           
  testimony.                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GREEN made a MOTION to pass CSSB 238(FIN)                     
  with the fiscal note out of committee with INDIVIDUAL                        
  RECOMMENDATIONS.                                                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there were any objections to the                  
  motion.  Hearing none, the MOTION PASSED.                                    

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